tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post8467715662981220656..comments2023-05-15T08:21:23.351-04:00Comments on A WORLD OUT OF MIND- Salvia Divinorum: Playing With Disk WorldsSaint Brian the Godlesshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comBlogger148125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-88385151734523470722017-07-03T03:54:10.943-04:002017-07-03T03:54:10.943-04:00Well, if we say there are infinite goal universes,...Well, if we say there are infinite goal universes, then this may not be a problem after all. With an infinite set of goal universes, there will always be another "chair" for each version of you to slide down into. <br /><br />To illustrate, there is a thought experiment called "Hilbert's Paradox of the Grand Hotel" (https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert%27s_paradox_of_the_Grand_Hotel).<br /><br />A hotel with infinite rooms can always make room for one new guest, simply by sliding every other guest down a room. The guest in room n will be moved to room n+1. After all guests have been moved, room 1 is empty, and the new guest now has a room to occupy.<br /><br />(and yes, I am re-reading this whole thread again after about 1.5 years... lol)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11178497704300424531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-54251258061495755662016-02-26T11:57:55.366-05:002016-02-26T11:57:55.366-05:00I'll check out Martin Ball, btw. Thanks again....I'll check out Martin Ball, btw. Thanks again.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-46189965133293864302016-02-26T11:57:07.702-05:002016-02-26T11:57:07.702-05:00Thank you. Yes, heard of it. Also read Rick Strass...Thank you. Yes, heard of it. Also read Rick Strassman's book on DMT. While I've never had any, from the many things I've read about it I've come to think of salvia as DMT's "dark sister." <br /><br />I'd love to try it, and also LSD and 'Shrooms, but never had the opportunity plus they're so illegal. Where I live, salvia is legal. Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-49221893244720172362016-02-25T13:40:30.282-05:002016-02-25T13:40:30.282-05:00"So what's the significance of a humorous..."So what's the significance of a humorous thought? ...As thoughts go, it's stronger than normal thinking, more strongly imagined in the mind..."<br /><br />These kinds of 'stronger' thoughts are also techniques used for better memory retention, like long lists, names of new people you meet, etc. You create a connection of the thing to be remembered to a very visual, graphic, funny, sexual, or otherwise over-the-top image or scenery. This creates a much stronger connection, thus enabling one to remember the list/name/etc.<br /><br />Brian, are you familiar with 5MEO-DMT? I haven't had a chance to explore with it (yet), but have read and studied others who have for many years. 5MEO and Salvia seem like the two strongest substances out there, and the top substances to be used when trying to understand reality. 5MEO is commonly referred to as the 'God Molecule' as it has the ability to blast through your ego and to the white-out 'all is one' space. It might be the one substance qualitatively stronger than Salvia. Note - this is different from standard DMT - which is not as strong. I do have considerable experience with that molecule...and I consider Salvia and DMT similar in qualitative strength, but Salvia is a bit stronger IME.<br /><br />The person I've listened to the most, who has *extensive* experience, is named Martin Ball. He has several pod-casts describing his experiences and a few books as well. In general, his take is that everything is fractal energy. If you had an opportunity to add the knowledge you could gain from that substance to your knowledge from Salvia...well...maybe a lot of your suspicions would be confirmed or you could answer a lot of your questions :-) <br /><br />http://www.martinball.net/<br /><br />Go to his 'Entheogen books' tab and scroll down the summary of the book 'Being Human'. This is his book detailing his findings and his 'grand unified theory'. He is completely anti-metaphysical fluff, claiming most stuff is 'egoic-based fantasy projection'. <br />chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12413534386264328156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-86928461472000272492016-02-24T20:25:17.226-05:002016-02-24T20:25:17.226-05:00You might also want to check out Stuart Mason'...You might also want to check out Stuart Mason's book, and J.D Arthur's book. Stuart (tvsuat) always sees a wheel and a being "rolling our reality." Arthur almost always seems to have seeming contact with the dead.panthernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-43364866595409960212016-02-23T15:36:48.103-05:002016-02-23T15:36:48.103-05:00Thank you so much! I'll respond again after I&...Thank you so much! I'll respond again after I've read them. Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-38203263708321934762016-02-21T22:14:57.338-05:002016-02-21T22:14:57.338-05:00Hi Saint Brian,
I found some interesting posts on...Hi Saint Brian,<br /><br />I found some interesting posts on some of the common phenomena experienced in the Salvia states, worth a read:<br /><br />The Salvia Gravity Phenomenon: <br /><br />http://entheogen-network.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27305<br /><br />The Curious Case Of Sentient Inanimate Objects:<br /><br />http://entheogen-network.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27307<br /><br />Salvia Lego Family:<br /><br />http://entheogen-network.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27262<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09811801217830237208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-69872860398809693652016-02-18T17:12:09.258-05:002016-02-18T17:12:09.258-05:00I find that the reason that they say in magic to c...I find that the reason that they say in magic to craft your "spell" or talisman or whatever, do your ritual, and then forget that you ever did it, is because if you can really commit to a belief and let it no longer dominate your mind afterwards you won't be spending time trying to constantly reinforce your intention due to doubts creeping in. It's a matter of learning to let go of it, I guess. Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-70488998415814172362016-02-18T17:09:48.594-05:002016-02-18T17:09:48.594-05:00Yes, I do, and I don't let my skepticism get i...Yes, I do, and I don't let my skepticism get in the way of belief when I need to believe in order to get results that I can later be skeptical about. Although of course, if I had not doubts at all, it might be better for results purposes, but I don't want to go that far yet.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-18949574612639840642016-02-18T12:13:12.996-05:002016-02-18T12:13:12.996-05:00I used to be much more hard core skeptic than I am...I used to be much more hard core skeptic than I am. Now I genuinely try to be as open as authentically possible. The sort of doubt that bothers me now tends to be more in the realm of self-doubt...can **I** really believe enough, can this outcome really happen to **ME** etc. And this seems a big challenge. Also, a long history of sad thinking and doubtful thinking seems to have left "toxins" in my mental system...or at the very least grooves in my subconscious that are difficult to develop new growth over...or to form new, more positive grooves. This seems to be like a constant battle. There's a kind of negative feedback loop, where I really need something kind of astonishing, or astonishingly positive to happen to me, in order to 'reset' those grooves, but trying to maintain an abstract hope in the absence of that, causes this self-doubting to surface, and perhaps is even gouging the original grooves deeper. Truly sustaining a positive mood (day by day, week by week) for any "work" is also very challenging. It's like a constant sort of vigilance is required...which itself may be drawing too much attention to the problem. Do you know what I mean by all this?panthernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-60132311965476812162016-02-18T10:35:39.129-05:002016-02-18T10:35:39.129-05:00See, thing is, I don't see any problem with me...See, thing is, I don't see any problem with me always retaining a grain of skepticism as a "fallback" since I can overcome it enough to see these phenomena. It's like my virus-scan.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-81961517254116574302016-02-18T10:34:15.390-05:002016-02-18T10:34:15.390-05:00Now ya see, that's how I tend to think. What y...Now ya see, that's how I tend to think. What you just said. And doubt destroys the phenomena, but that doesn't mean it's not real, it's just an intuitive-mind thing. <br /><br />I just also have a "skeptical angel" on my shoulder, to whom I assigned that position to prevent me from ever falling for a belief without sufficient proof. I had a friend for years that was so skeptical that he bordered on pathological, and I used to use him as a sounding board, not to convince him but to understand his mind set, and boy did I get it. He's my mental Cerberus, my guard dog against incursions by baseless fantasy. Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-40924845578818830752016-02-17T21:24:17.220-05:002016-02-17T21:24:17.220-05:00Well, sometimes skepticism can get overwrought. Al...Well, sometimes skepticism can get overwrought. Although being "scientific" about it all, is laudable in its own way, that's also a "world view" or membrane that is laid over things that isn't necessarily the way things are, and may be distorting them.<br /><br />Essert wasn't near death, and it would be an awful interesting loss of coherence that managed to reverse A.M.'s stage IV lymphoma.<br /><br />One of Essert's big themes is that the rational mind is actually antagonistic to the mode of functioning of these states (intuitive states)...we don't "think" in them, they're gnostic (with a small g). And by bringing too much skeptico-science to them, even notionally, we may actually be aggravating difficulties that interfere with their occurrence (or expansion). And I do think there's something to that.panthernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-37968388102952063022016-02-17T20:33:12.025-05:002016-02-17T20:33:12.025-05:00So maybe there's something to my visions. Or m...So maybe there's something to my visions. Or maybe the near-death thing creates a mental state similar to salvia where you're deceived by the brain as it loses it's coherence. I like to think the former though.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-85882617026127652642016-02-17T19:36:39.014-05:002016-02-17T19:36:39.014-05:00Yes, true. It does.Yes, true. It does.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-7958630934002524482016-02-17T18:58:46.894-05:002016-02-17T18:58:46.894-05:00It seems (to me anyway) that you are all saying ve...It seems (to me anyway) that you are all saying very similar things about this...it's just stated in different colors of language.panthernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-42802163613710674492016-02-17T18:57:30.358-05:002016-02-17T18:57:30.358-05:00There was also a man called Charles Essert, who ha...There was also a man called Charles Essert, who had a very powerful mystical experience, and wrote about it in a book called "Secret Splendor" (it's a very good book). He said:<br /><br />"From [that other dimension's - which Essert calls "the soul" but admits this is just another label] infinite depths come all effects: out of its wisdom are born all experiences, yet in one sense of the word they are not born, for they already exist. All potentialities, all possible relationships, all circumstances and realizations, exist as living realities in its infinite wisdom."<br /><br />And <br /><br />"The third realization was that I had called forth certain of these infinite possibilities, and they manifested for me as experiences. I had not "created" a single condition by my thinking, but my *needs* brought them forth and made it possible for them to be experienced. It was a profound and startling realization."<br /><br />And <br /><br />"Thus [The Soul] is the "well of living water" that contains all that we can ever know or experience, and the experiences themselves are now living realities, having their existence in the mysterious realm of cause."panthernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-17037740470501925982016-02-17T18:48:59.690-05:002016-02-17T18:48:59.690-05:00Anita's is also similar, to be honest, because...Anita's is also similar, to be honest, because she says "it was like *nothing* is real, but *every single possibility exists* as well."<br /><br />And also<br /><br />"Time seems to have a completely different meaning. What I felt was that all possibilities exist simultaneously - it just depends which one you choose."<br /><br />And<br /><br />"To me, it feels like every possibility I could ever conceive already exists in that dimension. And I am able to bring these possibilities into my 3D reality by expanding my consciousness to let it in." panthernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-63964608073676374022016-02-17T17:56:00.233-05:002016-02-17T17:56:00.233-05:00For some reason it reminded me of the "back d...For some reason it reminded me of the "back doors" in "The Matrix" movies, except it looked nothing like them. Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-36433109346549023152016-02-17T17:54:09.928-05:002016-02-17T17:54:09.928-05:00I remember one time (written up somewhere on my bl...I remember one time (written up somewhere on my blog) I was looking at my dresser in front of me, and felt a strange feeling in my eyes and head, like electricity... I concentrated on it, and began to get a sense that I could modulate it, increase the feeling... as I did this a silvery area appeared on the dresser... I increased the power level, and it grew, became a window, and I "went into it" and it was a vast green forest with infinite paths to seemingly everywhere.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-42014886127190149252016-02-17T17:51:37.719-05:002016-02-17T17:51:37.719-05:00Like that NDE, I've felt my mind tuning into f...Like that NDE, I've felt my mind tuning into frequencies of some sort, and even been able to tune it around the "dial" myself, seeing images appear as I changed to different "channels." It's a very realistic feeling of your mind increasing it's power to a higher "channel." I think that unfortunately the metaphors here take away from how profound the experience is, but it's still the best way too describe it.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-71633924109993571872016-02-17T17:47:27.848-05:002016-02-17T17:47:27.848-05:00I should mention something... about gnosis. There ...I should mention something... about gnosis. There are (so I've read many times) 2 basic categories of ways to attain it. The Western and the Eastern approach. The Eastern way is to empty the mind. The Western way is to fill the mind with imagery.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-62235046975652656452016-02-17T17:15:50.001-05:002016-02-17T17:15:50.001-05:00That's an amazing similarity to my visions of ...That's an amazing similarity to my visions of what reality is. Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-26297388836980945702016-02-17T17:14:46.026-05:002016-02-17T17:14:46.026-05:00Indeed, and that one is indeed interesting to me. ...Indeed, and that one is indeed interesting to me. <br /><br />Plus, although weak as evidence, the fact that many times while "out there" I made myself remember a "message" to take back to my regular self, saying basically "I am seeing things right now that leave me with no doubt, there can be no doubt that these visions are real, that reality is like this it's real" but I can't bring back *those* visions, so I have to take my word on it. (I don't think that last sentence is typed by humans very often) In other words, since all I can bring back is my own word that this it all real, I can't trust in it. It's nice to know, though, I guess. Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-818337194000369798.post-2691339201963196472016-02-17T17:14:07.603-05:002016-02-17T17:14:07.603-05:00I misquoted him a little. His actual pertinent rem...I misquoted him a little. His actual pertinent remarks were these:<br /><br />"There exists a reality in which I died that day. A powerful life-force simply switched the channels of reality opening new doors of perception and now I was in an alternate life track where I hadn’t died. There may be millions of these alternate channels or tracts of reality, all happening simultaneously."<br /><br />"I felt like I had entered a multi-dimentional space, as though reality was simultaneously many things and time/space could be changed as though clicking a TV channel switcher."<br /><br />"It seemed as though life is being lived on many different time/space tracks, and that if you died in one. a powerful life-force shifts you to "change channels" and pick up in an alternative life."panthernoreply@blogger.com